Is being gay STILL taboo??

[marleyisalegend]

Yes, probably always will be and being a young gay black man I got used to the ostricization back in high-school, my "skin" is thick as an elephant now. However, it still cut me a little bit to see a 20/20-ish special on scientists trying to discover whether or not homosexuality is
hereditary or genetic. We all know what this study will lead to,
Hypothetical situation
Doctorr: "Mrs. Johnson, the fetus you're carrying has the gay gene, would you like to terminate the pregnancy?"

It's really frustrating that people act like homosexuality is a disease that needs to be prevented or treated. sometimes it seems gay men have more to answer to than these religious leaders who prey on little boys and get a slap on the wrist (or the pastors who condemn us to hell hours before surfing down-low chat-sites). anyway, agree with it or not, gay people are not going anywhere and one of the MANY changes this country needs to uphold the broken promises it was built on (by rich thieves) would be to create an atmosphere where brothers don't have to get on down-low gay-chat sites to cater to their homosexual desires. I don't agree in the slightest with that lifestyle because of the countless people hurt by it, but watch an episode of Maury or Oprah that features someone with a physical disfiguration (like a skin disease, burn-marks or appendages hanging off their face). these so-called freaks all speak of how they barely leave the house because of the ridicule they face, the same ridicule gay people face. young people throw around "that's gay" as if it's the worst insult ever. i wish i had a dollar for every friend who called me crying because their own mother proclaimed she'd rather have had a miscarriage than a gay son/daughter. and even older generations won't stop preaching about the fifteen kinds of hell being built just for 'fags', completely in denial that their sons, neighbors, AND forefathers have been, are and will always be living this lifestyle (think about all the great men in history that we assume were straight and remember that statistically one in ten men exhibits homosexual tendencies) I don't care whether or not I'm allowed a piece of paper to define a silly union that, in this day and age, will probably end before the silver anniversary, I'd just like to know that gay people are afforded the same courtesies, respect, and acknowledgment everyone else is given. this isn't a complete complaint, since coming out (though i never really lived in any closets) my friends who are mostly straight have been fairly supportive and almost nonchalant towards my sexuality, but it seems that as a country we are still holding on to some archaic idealisms. two decades ago an official government study cited homosexuality as a brain defect. five decades ago the thought of women voting was laughable and offensive. scores of decades ago african americans were thought of as lesser beings with limited intelligence, fit only for physical labor. all i'm saying is, which group is next to be cast out as different and inequal? we've run through blacks, native americans, women, hispanics, and at the end of each episode we find out that, gasp! we're not so different after all. and maybe then my friend Ro will stop introducing me to his friends as "his gay homeboy".

[Wil]

You offer us so much to think about, and to consider. Thank you for opening up to the Community. Your words are going to help others who read this, who are feeling the same way that you do.

I believe that the world has, and is becoming more understanding of the gay lifestyle. Growing up, I can remember much hostility towards gays... this has changed, and eased over time, like most things in life.

I live in California and near San Francisco— so, my viewpoint may not reflect the reality across America's smaller towns, rural areas etc., where I imaging that the gay lifestyle is less understood. But with each new generation that is born, our education and sensibilities advance, and we become a more fair and understanding society, and nation... I hope.

Just imagine for a moment, being 20-something, and gay during the 1950's or 1960's in America. That would have been monumentally rough, and challenging. Although things are far from perfect from today, we have come a long way since then, with more work to ahead.

Your friend, Wil

[marleyisalegend]

thanks you guys, for MONTHS i've been trying to find a site to blog and hold discussions that didn't involve vulgarity and puerile disrespect. it's nice to be able to converse with people sensibly and articulately. though my blog may have been negative i do see a ray of light in the future for the gay/lesbian community. the idea of women voting was laughable not too long ago and now we have one running for office, and i believe the same progress will be made for gay rights. hate will always be alive and breathing but i do believe that, like racism, the amount of power homophobia holds in this country will diminish and one day running into a gay person will be as common as seeing a car pass by

[Daniel Brooks]

Yeah, and I can agree with you but now I have been judged because have called me gay and it bothers me. I know that one day the world will see that it's a beautiful thing. It's hurts that the community thinks it's bad. But I'm not gay.

Daniel

[chris]

Is gay Still taboo? Question. What is "Gay", I'm curious, is it a gender, nationality, or race? Asking if being gay is similar to asking is having sex outside of marriage taboo. I wish people would call it for what it is a choice.
Being gay is an individuals sexual preference. I believe that if we can identify what gay is then most people would get over their homophobic feelings. To be honest, respect is earned not given. The man you are should be a reflection of your character not your homosexuality. Yes, it is tough being a gay man in today's society still but I think that most people are learning to appreciate each other a little more each day. As a Christian male I get "judged" right away by gay people until they get to sit down and reason with me. The prejudice goes both ways, brother. Take time to get to know people, I find that geographically this might be hard in certain places of the U.S. but seek out people who will love you for you. Not because your gay but because you're a human being and a specific individual who will never be replicated.
My philosophy is simple. Love em' all let God sort em' out. After all he is the Judge not me.

[marleyisalegend]

I find it interesting that you think defining gay will make people any more comfortable with it? We know what black is but the KKK still marches with little to no opposition from the American people or even the law. Maybe I already knew the answer to the question, ignorance is always going to exist and the more technology advances and makes our lives comfortable, the more Americans build a sense of entitlement. Everything we see and hear is supposed to please us and if it doesn't we're going to express our discontent no matter who's feelings we hurt or who we disrespect. I certainly understand the misjudgments you face, I have several gay friends who talk about christians as if they're a bunch of ravenous wolves walking around smacking people upside the heads with bibles. I know many gay people who look at extreme religious fanatics and apply that characterization to all christians. Your post reminded me how much I have in common with people who's philosophies are at the opposite end of the spectrum so to speak.

[chris]

Well, ok, you say "We know what black is", I'm not sure that we do. Once again it is a term that puts people in bondage. Black is a shade, not a people nor is it a Nationality. Calling me or you black and denying our heritage its lumping every person of color into a group people. It's putting you into the same group as a black somalian, or very dark east indian. Why can we just be Americans? Puerto Ricans are Puerto Ricans, Cubans aren't Black Cubans and Latin Cubans, only in America do we continue to have separation of "colors".

Yes, racism will always exist as long as we have a lot of different people all together. The clan will march where they still have some followers but you don't see them marching in my neighborhood on the West Coast. They wouldn't last 5 min. but there is plenty of hidden racism still. You can say that the KKK are now taboo. Homosexuality is no different once a part of normal society in Roman and Greek history and now in most parts of the world "Hollywood" accepted on T.V. but not accepted in the school or mall. I'm sure the struggle of intolerance will continue for awhile.

As Christians we try to get our message out and sometimes we act a little irreverent.

[marleyisalegend]

i understand, though i'm not like a lot of gay people who condemn ALL christians. sometimes i feel like christians are discriminated against just as much as anybody else

[wizthom]

man made problems has sulutions but no answers

u need to take the blinders off Hitler fought a war over color,,blue eyes and blond hair,
Saddam gassed people over color nationality kurd ,even in Africa sudane the Nigerians and Liberians are at odds,,black is the essence of all colors the black gene is in all races,,yes including white,,no color can exist with out the color black,,so it is fair to say shades of color are very real but the heart of it all is black.racism and gayness, are one in the same,,man judging man when only God has that right.who are u to say it's a choice ,a christian which domination s even wars were fought over that,,one a black Christan couldn't attend a awhite Christan church, even God saw fit to separate colors,,,peace wizthom

[wizthom]

lol no comment love ,

[wizthom]

does God make mistakes ,,tho we may not understand God reasoning ,
for making jim think he's jane.or marry think she's larry ,only God can answer these questions no man has that right,

when man play God chaos and disorder are the norm , being gay soicity says no it is not tabbo
whom am i to say rather it was a curse in the family tree or a decision made by the person,
what matters is how the person feel about being gay,,and what are the reasons for being gay,,
because ,i am compatible with my masculinity i have no fear of being around a gay man ,as men does nothing for me sexually ,
however a lesbian woman MM if i am attracted i have been known to share my body with,,and i must say the pleasure was good ,,tabboo the curtain came down and the gay came out when
in the 1978 the national psychological console dem that being homosexual is not a sickness,
there for there is no cure ,,or medicine ,because it is not an illness,,a year later they also said ,
the same thing about being a pedophile it is also not a sickness or illness as long as it does not harm the child,hm mm ,,i say don't worry my friend you are protected by the civil rights and 13 amendment ,,
as u are aware of,,

[chris]

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I think you need to go back to school. No offense, but following your response is extremely difficult and your spelling. How can you misspell words when this site has a spell check? As far as your thoughts on this forum, I have no idea what you are trying to say. I will try to answer.
You begin with,"man made problems has sulutions but no answers" What does that mean? Hitler used the Jews to motivate his cause, everyone knows that the failing German economic climate was blamed on the Jews but Hitler really wanted to create his 1000 years of reign so he pointed a finger at the Jewish foreigners.

Nobody here is judging anyone You continue to say, "who are u to say it's a choice". I'm not saying it the bible is, Romans 1:27-28, And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Sounds like a choice to me.
A choice not to seek God's true wisdom.
You say, "when man play God chaos and disorder are the norm" Who's playing God, as a Christian I am doing exactly what Christ asks me to do. Love completely and give a reasonable answer to a question asking if it is still taboo to being gay.
What advice are you giving? I quote,"i say don't worry my friend you are protected by the civil rights and 13 amendment ,," Are you satisfied with that answer?

You conclude with, "in the 1978 the national psychological console dem that being homosexual is not a sickness,there for there is no cure ,,or medicine ,because it is not an illness,,a year later they also said ,the same thing about being a pedophile it is also not a sickness or illness as long as it does not harm the child". Well here we are back to it being a "choice"
I guess God is right again.

[wizthom]

first of all your fable attempt at belittlement only served to justify ,
your judging of others , it is true u hide behind being Christian to justify Ur answers when in fact no man of God would began a discussion in the manner you began,second when faced with the truth you like the Jews seek to condemn the source ,spelling is that the best you can do ?,,you say no-body here is judging any body,there you go trying to hide, share your guilt among others ,like a sinner who would sell all the world just to save himself ..,,i said you were prejudging when u have not that right,you say you are doing exactly as Christ ask you to do ,,or do you mean you were taught to do,or think,,programed ,

did you speak with christ?,tell me what does he look like,?

you say
What advice am i giving ? there you go not comprehending what you read,
for being blinded by your own point of view, i am not giving any advise,


you quote me as saying , don't worry my friend you are protected by the civil rights and 13 amendment ,, you asked " Are you satisfied with that answer?

i wrote facts google or

did you mean to imply ,do i agreed with it ?,

you took my words like most who read the bible to mean what you wont it to mean,
case in point you quoted me poorly i must add,
you said of me

You conclude with, "in the 1978 the national psychological console Dem that being homosexual is not a sickness,there for there is no cure ,,or medicine ,because it is not an illness,,a year later they also said ,the same thing about being a pedophile it is also not a sickness or illness as long as it does not harm the child".
like man u left-ed off the important part hmmm

you said

Well here we are back to it being a "choice"
I guess God is right again.

excuse you

you say God is right again?

i say who are you to speak for God,babies born-ed deformed blind deaf ,or born with both sex organs hermaphrodite,how does choice play into this
you need to stay out of Gods mouth when you have yet to comprehend the child you are,
yes i am saying this as a fact with a whole lot of wizthom
when you can't even see past your anger at being reputed and man taught knowledge,
centuries of watered down translated and divided titles of which you chose one to follow christian ,
does not make you God like,
i need not judge you for this you have already done,

as for that person being gay i still say only God can say ,
and judge condemn not Ur contradicting verses you put together ,
to suit your needs born of the knowledge tree,peace wizthom